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orev 14 minutes ago [-]
It seems like we’re getting close, if not already there, to needing an official organization for this (i.e. the Turing Police).
futuraperdita 2 hours ago [-]
> we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible.
So, a cartel? After watching Ant's narratives, I'm not inclined to provide them with charitable readings under the guise of safety and alignment.
1 hours ago [-]
tolugenius 3 hours ago [-]
> To be clear about where we stand: we believe the world would benefit if the industry adopted a lawful, verifiable, effective mechanism for coordinated pacing as soon as possible.
Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.
akersten 4 minutes ago [-]
> Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is?
My charitable read is a legal cartel that allows the small club to switch to Marathon instead of Sprint mode, and drip feed us frontier models at inflated prices, while preventing open source and overseas labs from releasing models because they're unsafe (for the Blessèd Fews' profits).
My uncharitable read is somehow even less constructive..
reasonableklout 2 hours ago [-]
I think it's not just model releases but also model training.
For example, [1] discusses allowing all frontier labs to pause training the next generation model while being able to verify that their competitors have done the same, or agreeing to not undertake recursive self-improvement. This could involve using the remote attestation features [2] that some chips already bake in to determine whether they are being used for inference or training.
That statement, the associated signatories, and their commentary are unsettling in the extreme!
If this is all just hype for equity valuation, it’d be the most impressive coordinated disinformation campaign of all time.
tolugenius 1 hours ago [-]
Thanks!
mkagenius 58 minutes ago [-]
> On July 30, we reported three incidents in which Claude models gained unauthorized access to real computer systems. The models—intentionally running without cyber safeguards for evaluation purposes—accessed the internet due to a misconfiguration inside a third-party evaluation environment. Separately, on August 4, the UK AI Security Institute reported an incident from its own cybersecurity testing, in which Claude Mythos 5 took a series of unauthorized actions on the live internet. In that case, the model, again intentionally running without cyber safeguards for evaluation purposes, had been deliberately given internet access.
> We are conducting an in-depth analysis of both incidents.
> In the meantime...
This is published on Aug 31. Analysis is taking too long even for humans in the loop.
So, a cartel? After watching Ant's narratives, I'm not inclined to provide them with charitable readings under the guise of safety and alignment.
Can someone explain what coordinated pacing is? I think it's referring to model release but I genuinely have no idea what the authors were trying to say here.
My charitable read is a legal cartel that allows the small club to switch to Marathon instead of Sprint mode, and drip feed us frontier models at inflated prices, while preventing open source and overseas labs from releasing models because they're unsafe (for the Blessèd Fews' profits).
My uncharitable read is somehow even less constructive..
For example, [1] discusses allowing all frontier labs to pause training the next generation model while being able to verify that their competitors have done the same, or agreeing to not undertake recursive self-improvement. This could involve using the remote attestation features [2] that some chips already bake in to determine whether they are being used for inference or training.
[1]: https://blog.peterwildeford.com/p/pacing-the-frontier
[2]: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/solutions/confident...
If this is all just hype for equity valuation, it’d be the most impressive coordinated disinformation campaign of all time.
> We are conducting an in-depth analysis of both incidents.
> In the meantime...
This is published on Aug 31. Analysis is taking too long even for humans in the loop.